Low Budget Gamer for the kids

Discussion in 'Build Your Own PC' started by al., Jan 29, 2012.

  1. al.

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  2. jdeb

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    Wrong CPU for motherboard or vice versa.

    You want the FM1 board
    Newegg.ca - BIOSTAR TA75A+ FM1 AMD A75 (Hudson D3) HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard

    or save a few bucks and use a mATX board (still has 4 ram slots)
    Newegg.ca - BIOSTAR TA75M FM1 AMD A75 (Hudson D3) HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard


    Change your memory to this (1.5V) for stability

    Newegg.ca - ADATA 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model AD3U1333B2G9-DRH

    That power supply is fine but I prefer this one.. Note it is more than you need in terms of wattage but the price is better than the lower wattage ones currently

    Newegg.com - SeaSonic S12II 520 Bronze 520W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS 12V V2.91 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply

    Motherboard comes with sata cables, no need to buy.
     
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    I'm considering buying a 28-32" tv that can double as a monitor. Does anyone have any insights or ideas about doing this?
     
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    Looks good. As far as the TV, it looks like for 32" it's slim pickings. 1080P 120 Mhz, hdmi cable is what you want.
     
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    I use my Vizio 37" and it works great. I would reccomend looking for a unit that has enough inputs for any thing else you may want to add to the tv. ie dvd player, game units, cable/satelite box

    Lower response times are something you'll want to consider when using your tv as a monitor. You'll also want to consider how close the kids wil be to the tv, if they are going to be right up on it, higher refresh rates are better for thier eyes. Less eye strain reduces the chance of tired crabby kids. Oh they will still be tired and cranky, but some people claim they can see the screen flicker at 60Mhz. Moreso if their on top of it. 120Mhz is easier on the eyes and is less tiresome than the standard 60Mhz, but you'll pay for the diference.

    If you dont want them on top of it, then you may find your self investing in a wireless mouse and keyboard. Worth every penny if you ask me.
     
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  7. al.

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    Hi Guys,

    The forces of life delayed this build. I'm ready to order once again. I've changed processors because the last is out of stock. Also, I need this PC to connect to my wireless network. Which is best, USB or adapting direct to the board?

    Please review and advise. Much appreciated! >>

    Newegg.ca - HITACHI Deskstar 7K1000.D HDS721075DLE630 (0F13179) 750GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

    Newegg.ca - APEX SK-393-C Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

    Newegg.ca - SeaSonic S12II 520 Bronze 520W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS 12V V2.91 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply

    Newegg.ca - SAPPHIRE Ultimate 100326UL Radeon HD 6670 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card

    Newegg.ca - ADATA 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model AD3U1333B2G9-DRH

    Newegg.ca - BIOSTAR TA75M FM1 AMD A75 (Hudson D3) HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

    Newegg.ca - LITE-ON DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - CD / DVD Burners

    Newegg.ca - AMD A4-3300 Llano 2.5GHz Socket FM1 65W Dual-Core Desktop APU with DirectX 11 Graphic AMD Radeon HD 6410D AD3300OJGXBOX

    Newegg.ca - AMD A4-3300 Llano 2.5GHz Socket FM1 65W Dual-Core Desktop APU (CPU + GPU) with DirectX 11 Graphic AMD Radeon HD 6410D AD3300OJHXBOX

    Newegg.ca - TP-LINK TL-WN722N High Gain Wireless Adapter IEEE 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Up to 150Mbps Wireless Data Rates 64/128 bits WEP
    WPA/WPA2, WPA-PSK/WPA2-PSK (TKIP/AES)


    Newegg.ca - Logitech Wireless Combo MK260 920-002950 Black 8 Function Keys USB RF Wireless Standard Keyboard and Mouse

    :)
     
  8. al.

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    An acquaintance is questioning my choice of ram. Also, is the case good enough? And is the power supply large enough for this build?
    Guys, what do you think of this build? If I invest a few hundred more will this build improve dramatically? The latest list will cost about $583 all totalled.

    Any feedback is appreciated. Thank-you
     
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    All 3 items in question are fine. However, if you want to spend more, this comes in at under $1000 and is a MAJOR improvement:

    Newegg.ca - COOLER MASTER Elite 330 Upgraded RC-330U-KKN1 Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

    Newegg.ca - CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply

    Newegg.ca - ASUS P8Z77-V LK LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS

    Newegg.ca - Intel Core i5-3470 Ivy Bridge 3.2GHz (3.6GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2500 BX80637i53470

    Newegg.ca - CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CML8GX3M2A1600C9B

    Newegg.ca - Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

    Newegg.ca - LG 22X Super-Multi DVD Burner 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 22X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model GH22NS90B - Retail - CD / DVD Burners

    Newegg.ca - SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity (100315L )

    Newegg.ca - Logitech Wireless Combo MK260 920-002950 Black 8 Function Keys USB RF Wireless Standard Keyboard and Mouse

    Newegg.ca - Rosewill RNX-N150PCx Wireless Adapter IEEE 802.11b/g/n PCI 2.2 Up to 150Mbps Wireless Data Rates 64/128 bits WEP, WPA (TKIP with IEEE802.1x), WPA2 (AES with IEEE802.1x)
     
  10. al.

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    Thanks GLC!!! I'm going to upgrade and order today. I'll use this build for myself and give my last build to the kids. Last build used an ASUS M4A77T/USB AM3 AMD 770 USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard. Should I install the Rosewill wireless adaptor on that board or simply use the USB adaptor?? Kid's PC will sit about 10 feet from the router.

    Newegg.ca - TP-LINK TL-WN722N High Gain Wireless Adapter IEEE 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Up to 150Mbps Wireless Data Rates 64/128 bits WEP
    WPA/WPA2, WPA-PSK/WPA2-PSK (TKIP/AES)
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    Use one of those Rosewills in all your wireless desktops. A PCI card is always better than USB.

    Can't you run a cable?
     
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    Will install the Rosewills. I've placed the order!

    Running a cable is very awkward in this room. Will try wireless 1st

    thx
     
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    Guys,
    Regarding this build from 2012; overall my computer is great. I'm running into some vid card limitations when playing some upgraded games. Can someone suggest an improved vid card from newegg.canada that will give me better performance? Is this possible? Do I need other improvements. thx
     
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    You need an upgrade from a 6850? What is your budget?
     
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    My budget is fairly high bu I want to ensure any upgrades complement my current hardware. Do I also need additional ram? Do other components need to be replaced? Or will a much improved vid card allow these games to play clearly?
     
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    A 3470 and 8 gigs ram should be fine.

    Depending on exact budget, look at the Nvidia GTX 760 and GTX 770 for being the best for the money. Radeons are not that great a value in that price range right now.
     
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    Which games are you having issues with?
     
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    http://worldoftanks.com/ from http://na.wargaming.net/ The 2014 updates effected frame rates. I use AMD’s optimizer to improve my frame rate but I still can’t run http://www.teamspeak.com/ or http://www.skype.com/en/. When I try to run those programs my frame rate drops and I can’t play.

    These are the proposed system requirements:

    Minimum system requirements:
    • Operating system: Windows XP / Vista / 7 / 8
    • Processor: 2.2 GHz supporting SSE2
    • RAM: 1.5 GB for Windows XP, 2 GB for Windows Vista / 7
    • Video Card: GeForce 6800 / ATI X1800 with 256 MB RAM; DirectX 9.0c
    • Sound: DirectX 9.0c compatible
    • Hard drive space: 16 GB
    • Internet Speed: 256 Kbps

    Recommended System Requirements:
    • Operating system: Windows XP /Vista /7/8 — 64-bit.
    • Processor (CPU): Intel Core i5-3330
    • Memory(RAM): 4 GB or more
    • Video Card: GeForce GTX660 (2GB) / Radeon HD 7850 2GB, DirectX 9.0c
    • Sound Card: DirectX 9.0c compatible
    • Free hard disk space: 30 GB
    • Internet connection
    • speed: 1024 Kbps or higher (for voice chat)

    I’m trying to figure which of my computer components may need to be upgraded?
     
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    The video card needs upgrading. It's right on the "recommended" line, the CPU and ram exceed that.
     
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    Thanks glc.
    I know we've been through this before but could you (or someone) please recommend an appropriate video card from newegg.ca
    As stated earlier, I have a healthy budget but I don't want to overdo it and it has to fit in the box.

    Also, can someone comment on an 'overheating' issue with this build? Doesn't seem to affect performance but....

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