BSOD out of nowhere

[sjones]

Help Please.

I received the BSOD out of nowhere after years of flawless PC activity. The only activity that was executed recently was an AVG scan that I perform every 3 months or so. here is the BSOD text.

A problem has been detected and windows has been shut down to prevent damage to your computer.

If this is the first time you've seen this stop error screen, restart your computer. If this screen appears again, follow these steps:

Chreck to be sure you have adequate disk space. If a driver is identifiied in the stop message, disable the driver or check with the namufacturer for driver updates. Trya changing the vido adapters.
Check with your hardware vendor for any BIOS updates. Disable BIOS memory options such as caching or shadowing. IF you need to use Safe Mode to remove or disable components, restart your computer, press F8 to select Advanced Startup Options, and then select safe mode.

Technical information:
*** STOP: OxOOOOOO8E (O.COOOOOO5, Ox8081A799, OxF6FEE778, OxOOOOOOOO)

[sjones]

I would also like to state the following.
I cannot boot in safe mode.
Running a Windows Repair is unsuccessful.
No drives show up when trying to reinstall XP.
I have replaced the video card, with no success.
Thanks in advance.!

[glc]

Full specs, please.

Very commonly caused by defective ram.

[sjones]

here are the specs


WD 7200 80gig HD
ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe 462(A) NVIDIA nForce2 Ultra 400 ATX AMD Motherboard
2 x Crucial 1GB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Desktop Memory Model CT12864Z40B - OEM
SAPPHIRE 100175L Radeon X1650PRO 512MB 128-bit GDDR2 AGP 4X/8X Video Card
antec 430 w power supply

[sjones]

amd athlon 2600 cpu

[glc]

www.memtest.org

Download the CD .iso version of memtest86+, burn it as an image to a CD, and boot with the CD and test your memory.

[sjones]

glc,
I ran the memtest, no errors reported. any further thoughts?
I pulled the HD's and tested them using an external shell, not flaws there as I was able to explore.
????

[sjones]

I am struggling with this one over here, anyone have any thoughts?

[usnavyretired]

Go to bios and try resetting it to the default values.

[Panama Red]

I've seen a rash of bsod's on start up recently and I'm beginning to think they were caused by a recent Windows Update on XP. People are shutting down the normal way and the Updates are installing before the shutdown.

I've repaired all with one of two methods. First is booting to an XP cd, selecting the Recovery Console and running chkdsk /r. The second method is a reapair install of XP using a slipstreamed XP SP3 disk and reloading all the Updates manually.

[systempat]

What happens when you try to go to Safe Mode? I assume you're using WinXP. You have to press the F8 key just after the POST screen goes away. I've never has a PC that would display a desktop not be able to go to Safe Mode. But sometimes the timing is a little touchy.

[sjones]

Panama Red,
That would be incredible timing all things considered and I would not put it past them. Can you please explain how to execute your two ideas further? I am unsure how to "selecting the Recovery Console and running chkdsk/r." I have tried to boot from the XP CD however, when I try the Repair Option, I get the BSOD.
Also, can you further define, slipstream xp3 ?

SystemPat,
I will continue to try the F8 method, I must not be able to get the timing right.

USNAVY,
I did that, no love.

[sjones]

PANAMA,
I was able to run chkdsk /r and received the following:
"the volume appears to contain one or more unrecoverable problems"

PLEASE HELP ME!

[Panama Red]

I just reread your posts and noticed something. How long have you been running that memory configuration? I had the exact same mobo some years back with a 400fsb cpu (3000+) and when I tried to run some PC3200 Kingston Value Ram, I started getting bsod's. Called Kingston and they informed me that mobo won't support the ram I installed. Like glc, I'd spend more time on the ram. An 8e error is almost always a ram problem. Have you tried one stick at a time? How bout one stick in each of the 3 slots? The manual for that mobo has some very specific cautions regarding PC3200 ram and the number of chips per stick. See page 2-8 in the manual.

http://dlsvr04.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/...x-e_deluxe.pdf

[sjones]

Hi,
I have been running this RAM for a long time, nothing new there. I have switched the slots with same result. On another note, I am able to F8 (Windows Advanced Start Menu) to the safe mode screen. When i try to start in SAFE MODE, it runs through a bunch of .sys files then gets stuck on d347bus.sys

after that it goes to BSOD.

[Panama Red]

Originally Posted by sjones

PANAMA,
I was able to run chkdsk /r and received the following:
"the volume appears to contain one or more unrecoverable problems"

PLEASE HELP ME!

Sounds like you may have a hard drive failing. Download the WD diagnostics and test. If you have another computer handy that you can add the WD hdd as a slave, might be a good idea to do that first and copy/save all your personal stuff. Then run the diagnostics.

[sjones]

Originally Posted by Panama Red

Sounds like you may have a hard drive failing. Download the WD diagnostics and test. If you have another computer handy that you can add the WD hdd as a slave, might be a good idea to do that first and copy/save all your personal stuff. Then run the diagnostics.

^^ I can explore the two drives when I plug into SATA external enclosure via usb onto a different machine (laptop). would this be possible if a drive was failing?

just a thought, thanks.

[Panama Red]

Originally Posted by sjones

^^ I can explore the two drives when I plug into SATA external enclosure via usb onto a different machine (laptop). would this be possible if a drive was failing?

just a thought, thanks.

Yes, you may have one or more bad sectors which would mean a drive is failing. I'd still recommend you save your files and run the WD diagnostics.

[systempat]

Save first if you can. Before running the diagnostics. Your time to be able to access the HD may be limited. Speaking as one who has been there.
IF the drive checks out on the diagnostics, then you are back to checking the memory. If the system died in the middle of a disk update, it may have left something unrecoverable.

GOOD LUCK on this!

[sjones]

thanks for your help everyone, but i have a rookie question.

what is the best way to run this diagnostic, and do you have a solid link to this tool?

[sjones]

scratch that last question.

I ran the WD Diagnostic. NO ERRORS FOUND!! i would like to extend the following recap

i ran the mem test as glc reccomended - no errors
i tried every possible combination with regards to the ram slots and sticks - same result, BSOD.
I am able to remove the HD's and navigate, copy, paste
I was able to run chkdsk /r and received the following: "the volume appears to contain one or more unrecoverable problems"
I cannot get to SAFE MODE without BSOD.



so hurting~!!!

[systempat]

Ummm, that's weird. The good new is your hard drive checked out apparently. You say that if you connect the drive to another machine you can navigate, browse, read OK.
Might want to hear other suggestions, but maybe you got a voltage surge or drop and it rebooted in the middle of writing to disk or something. If you have space to write to it might be time to copy all data files, documents, images, music, etc. from that drive to another drive. And reformat the drive and reinstall Windows. Wait for other opinions on this first, as it's a pain to have to do this. You'll have to reinstall all applications and software.

One other thought. Have you tried running it with only one stick of memory? And tried both that ways?

[Panama Red]

If the hard drive checks out and you got the message about too many errors when you ran chkdsk, it sure sounds like a corrupted operating system. Time for a Repair install of XP. Follow this guide:

http://forum.pcmech.com/showthread.php?t=151522

[systempat]

Red,
If he can't get chkdsk to run I don't think a repair install will take care of it.

[Panama Red]

Originally Posted by systempat

Red,
If he can't get chkdsk to run I don't think a repair install will take care of it.

See post #13. He did finally get it to run - with errors.

[sjones]

Okay.
So when i attempt to repair XP in the fashion listed on the previous link provided by PanamaRed, I receive the following result........

Microsoft Windows XP(TM) Recovery Console
The Recovery Console Provides system repair and recovery funtionality.
Type EXIT to quit the Recover Console and restart the computer.
C:\>

??????

Should I use the reformat tool on the WD Diagnostic?

[glc]

You did not follow the instructions correctly.

The next message onscreen will show “To setup Windows XP now, press ENTER” = yep, press Enter.

When the option to press R to enter the Recovery Console is offered, do not select it!

When the Windows XP Licensing Agreement is displayed onscreen, press F8 to agree.

Next, check that the installation of Windows XP you wish to repair is selected in the box, and then press the R key to repair Windows XP.

Follow the instructions onscreen.

[sjones]

glc,
looks like i jumped the gun. I erased the drive using the WD Diagnostic tool after removing anything that I thought was of value.

So I attempt to install XP. When I get to the option for create partition, or install, no drives are recognized. When I push C to create partition, I get BSOD with new message.

"rage_fault_in_non_paged_area"

this is crazy. please help.

[glc]

Did you ever slipstream the service packs into your XP CD? I don't think original XP can see the SATA controller on that motherboard. You also may need the SATA drivers on a floppy disk, press F6 at the beginning of Setup when prompted to install 3rd party storage drivers.

[sjones]

glc?
can you expand on the slipstream procedure?? or how this can be done. I do not have a floppy on this machine, can this be installed via CD?

Also, this XP disc that i am using was purchased less than one year ago, so i am fairly certain that it is SP3.

Thanks for your help and happy halloween.